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On the show today, we have real-life examples of how eating more protein has improved people’s lives. Lucy Hendricks is a coach and owner of Enhancing Life Gym in Lexington, Kentucky. She has seen first-hand the role nutrition plays, not just in progress in fitness but how that also translates to progress in life.
Everyone has that friend or loved one who hates the gym, doesn’t like to work out, or only breaks a sweat on doctor’s orders. These folks are Lucy’s specialty. She meets people where they are in their fitness journey and helps people gain strength in order to improve their daily life.
Recently, Lucy has been challenging her members to eat more protein and the results have been amazing. On this episode, Lucy is sharing some of their success stories.
Tune in to find out:
- How Lucy got started in the fitness business
- The limitations personal training have when talking about nutrition
- Factors that influence your physical health
- How most protein recommendations are too low
- Real-life examples of how increased protein intake has helped prevent injury and recovery from surgery
- A good starting goal for protein and how needs may change depending on personal circumstances
- Why strength training is important for maintaining independence as we age
Resources:
Sustainable Dish Special Episode with Ede Fox
Sustainable Dish Episode 178: Lily Nichols, RD
Connect with Lucy:
Website: Enhancing Life Gym
Instagram: @lucy_hendricks
Facebook: Lucy Hendricks
Episode Credits:
Thank you to all who’ve made this show possible. Our hosts are Diana Rodgers and James Connelly. Our producer is Emily Soape. And of course, we are grateful for our sponsors, Patreon supporters, and listeners.
A big thanks to Microbiome Plus+ for sponsoring the podcast. As many of you know, I’m celiac and have very sensitive guts. And I recently tried their pro and prebiotic combo and have consistently felt amazing since taking it. I now highly recommend it to my nutrition clients who need probiotic support. And there’s also some pretty solid scientific papers showing how Microbiome Plus can help with Vitamin D absorption and for improving cholesterol levels. So if you’re looking for a new probiotic, give it a try for yourself. You can visit sustainable dish.com/biome and use code DIANA for 15% off sitewide.
Quotes:
“When you see the same thing over and over again, and you see that big of a difference, you can see the clear connection.” – Lucy Hendricks
“So even if you did nothing else to people’s diets and just told them to eat more protein, what a massive difference you can make in someone’s life.” – Diana Rodgers, RD
“Who cares about the 20 pounds that you want to lose? It’s how are you going to age because you can lose your independence at 60 and still live until you’re 90.” – Lucy Hendricks
Transcript:
(Intro) Diana Rodgers, RD 0:01
Welcome to the Sustainable Dish Podcast. I’m Diana Rodgers, a real food registered dietitian, author, and sustainability advocate. I co-host this podcast with James Connolly who was a producer on my film Sacred Cow. I also founded the Global Food Justice Alliance and initiative advocating for the inclusion of animal source foods like meat, dairy, and eggs for a more nutritious, sustainable, and equitable worldwide food system. You can check it out and join me at globalfoodjustice.org. Thanks again for listening. And now onto our show.
(Microbiome Plus+ Ad) Diana Rodgers, RD 0:39
I’d like to take a minute to thank Microbiome Plus+ for their support of today’s podcast. As many of you know, I’m celiac and have very sensitive guts. And I recently tried their pro and prebiotic combo and have consistently felt amazing since taking it. I now highly recommend it to my nutrition clients who need probiotic support. And there’s also some pretty solid scientific papers showing how Microbiome Plus+ can help with Vitamin D absorption and for improving cholesterol levels. So if you’re looking for a new probiotic, give it a try for yourself. You can visit sustainable dish.com/biome that’s B I O M, E and use code Diana – D I A N A for 15% off sitewide.
Diana Rodgers, RD 1:22
All right, welcome back to the podcast everyone. And I apologize in advance for some of the noise in the background. Today, there is an ice storm and the plows just showed up and they’re plowing an icy driveway here. So it’s gonna be a little bit noisy sometimes. Anyway, today I have with me, Lucy Hendricks. And I’m so excited. So she recently reached out to me with some anecdotes about some improvements that she’s been seeing with some of her clients at the gym. And so I thought it’d be really cool to do a podcast because I’ve never had you on the podcast, Lucy. So welcome.
Lucy Hendricks 1:59
Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Diana Rodgers, RD 2:01
And so Lucy, why don’t you talk a little bit about like, what you do and how you got all into it?
Lucy Hendricks 2:07
Yeah, so my name is Lucy Hendricks. And I own a gym in Lexington, Kentucky. And our main goal is to get people who normally would hate going to the gym… I always joke that a lot of my friends in the fitness industry all have family members that they just would die if they could just start getting a little healthier. They hate the gym, they hate working out, they hate walking, they hate eating well, and I get all of those people. And in the beginning, they really don’t want to be there with us. They’re either guilted by their spouse or their kids, someone bought them a gift card that was too expensive to throw away, or their physical therapist told them that they had to join us and that was their only option. So we get all the people that normally wouldn’t be the gym rats that you see at the gym at 5 am each day. And we get them really strong. And we specialize with the decondition population, which is another word for people who are not very strong – weak, which is not a very nice word. So we like to use decondition. And within that population, a lot of people are in chronic pain. So a lot of our clients have chronic pain, and we’re able to meet them where they’re at and help them progress from there.
Diana Rodgers, RD 3:28
Wow. And I can imagine there’s quite a lot of people in the Lexington, Kentucky area who fit that deconditioned category.
Lucy Hendricks 3:38
I would argue it’s most people. People always say I work with a special population. But honestly, everybody either has chronic pain or an autoimmune issue or deconditioned. So I think a lot of people fall into this category.
Diana Rodgers, RD 3:55
And you know, I’ve done all kinds of workouts throughout my life. I’ve been a Spinning instructor, I’ve done CrossFit. But I’ve also… like I was mentioning to you right before we got on the podcast, I’ve got a knee issue now. And my workout goals have really gone from more athletic achievement to I just want to feel good. And I think there’s not enough emphasis put on the positive benefits of just, I just want to feel good.
Lucy Hendricks 4:23
Exactly. And that’s how we get people who don’t want to work out to stay because they start feeling better. So even though they might not fully enjoy it, or they would love to do something else, like get some martinis and a steak. They still come because they feel the difference. They feel how different their everyday life feels.
Diana Rodgers, RD 4:42
And so talk a little bit about your background, because when I first met you, I think it was maybe it’s in the early 2010s, teens, right and you’re working for Jim Laird and I remember him telling me that or him talking about how when you came you were not super outgoing. And he encouraged you to get a job as a waitress. And I always remember that, and I actually was telling you that I have to in a little bit, give my daughter a ride to work, because she just got a job as a waitress. And what a cool job that is for somebody who needs that exposure therapy. So talk a little bit about your origins and how you got into all this.
Lucy Hendricks 5:26
I love telling that story. Because I speak for a living now. I teach all the time, I can speak to just about anybody. And when I talk to younger coaches, I love telling them that my old boss made me go get a job at a restaurant because I couldn’t hold a conversation. I didn’t have the skills to communicate with people. And I was super shy, not confident at all. I didn’t think I had the personality to become a trainer. And so I was in a weird spot, right when we met, and you actually really influenced me taking my training very seriously because I didn’t know if I wanted to go into nutrition. Or if I wanted to keep staying in a gym setting and working on getting people stronger. And meeting you made me realize I’m gonna stick to training because nutrition is very polarizing. And I don’t want to deal with that stuff.
Diana Rodgers, RD 6:22
I had no idea. That’s really, really funny. Well, definitely is polarizing for sure. But wow, I didn’t know that. But you still do some I mean, trainers are allowed to talk about healthy eating to some extent, although I suppose when you’re dealing with a population that probably has a lot of health concerns, there’s a fine line between talking about healthy eating, and then getting into medical nutrition therapy, which technically only a dietitian can do. So how do you… I mean, that’s why you reached out to me initially. So talk a little bit about what that’s like, as a trainer.
Lucy Hendricks 6:59
Yeah. So as trainers, there is that fine line. We are not equipped to give people advice on their diet, but we are allowed to provide information. And nutrition has been something that we’ve kind of ignored, knowing that it was one of those factors that influence our clients’ ability to progress. Because as a gym owner, people who get people strong, our number one goal is to get people strong, we want to see people progress in the gym. We’re very influenced by my old boss, who was a powerlifter. So it’s just I’m very biased towards getting people stronger because I really believe in it. So there’s other factors that prevent people from getting strong and getting results. And those are the factors that we focus on, which was like getting your steps in, getting sunlight, getting nature. We did sleep challenges, meditation challenges. So we are a gym that’s known to promote other lifestyle things, even though we’re not coaching them one on one because we don’t have the credentials. But we also don’t have the service. People on the training floor are not there to get life coaching or one on one attention where they figure out their own problems. But what we can do as a gym is have information, resources, challenges – hey, in two months, we’re all going to do the sleep challenge. And next month, we’re all doing a meditation challenge. I think it was 2019 that we had half of our clients participate in my meditation challenge, which was pretty cool. And then nutrition just has been this thing where we know it’s important. But we don’t want to touch that bubble because it’s so polarizing. We’ve got the Keto people, we got the low carb people, we got the no-carb people, the high fat, the people who still think fat is bad, the intermittent fasting. So there’s just so many different things that we just didn’t really touch on it. Our pillar is real food and that’s all we talk about. Just eat real food. But this year, we had a client who finally retired, and she didn’t progress for seven years. And this is very common with the decondition population. And this is something I talk about a lot – bringing awareness of all these other factors that are preventing people from progressing. So I have to just kind of keep them where they’re at and be okay with that. So that’s why I’ve worked on all these other sleep and walking, trying to get people aware of these things. So when this person retired, I thought stress was her biggest thing. Finally, she is no longer the fire chief, which is a really stressful job and she’s going to progress. And that was true to some extent. The pain decreased so we were able to push her a little more, but there was still the same numbers week by week. Things still looked heavy, instead of seeing this nice progress. And there is this nutrition coach I was following on Instagram and she kept talking about protein, protein protein, she’s a fat loss coach. And she kept saying if you are not getting enough protein, you will look different. Someone on a calorie deficit with not enough protein and someone on a calorie deficit with protein will look different. And then she talked about strength, that will also look different. So that’s when I thought – hey, how many grams of protein are you eating a day because she ate meat. And I think that’s where I assumed that people eat meat, they must be eating enough. And that was a really wrong assumption. And so when I asked her, she calculated her protein, and it was less than half of what she needed. And so I sent her a few resources, I got my friend who’s a nutrition coach to do a little webinar on how to calculate how much protein you need, why it’s important for strength, and why it’s important for fat loss. And she almost doubled her protein. And for the first time, in seven, eight years, we started seeing the numbers go up. It was crazy. And when you see the same thing over and over again, and you see that big of a difference, you can see the clear connection. And so that’s when I got together with my business partner. And I told him that, and I told him, We have to find out how many grams of protein people are eating because it is not enough. And after three months of just harassing our clients – no, I need to see the numbers. Let me look at your app because people will track it on an app. And they say, Yes, I’m getting enough. And then they show me the app, and it’s 50 grams a day. Where did you get these numbers? So after three months, we find out a clear, clear connection of all of our clients who are in chronic pain, and who don’t progress, who have the same weights week after week, are either vegetarian, or anti-meat, where they eat meat, but they try not to because they think it’s bad. And it was a very clear connection. And then the people who did progress, love their steak, love their meat. And one of their doctors told him that protein was important. So it was just a very clear connection there. And that’s when I reached out to you.
Diana Rodgers, RD 12:00
Yeah, and you know, the funny thing is, so I was just recording another podcast with Ede Fox, who is Black Carnivore. I don’t know if you are familiar with her. But we were talking about the New York City public schools going vegan, and just the unintended consequences, especially when you look at the context of a typical kid’s diet. A lot of the kids in New York are food insecure. So when you look at a population, that the majority of the food that they’re eating is, you know, burgers, and chicken nuggets and pizza and stuff like that, when you take the animal source foods out, you’re just left with, you know, still fast food, but then just now you’re removing the only nutritious part of that meal, right? Because if you’re looking at a Big Mac meal with the fries, and the soda, the burger patties are the only nutritious piece of that, right? So when I’ve had new nutrition clients that overall aren’t, you know, really following a whole foods type diet, and they’re not eating a lot of unprocessed foods. And they’re not ready to go all the way. I mean, it takes a lot to like jump into something like a Whole30 right off the bat, you know, and not everybody’s ready to do that. And that’s totally okay. Because I don’t want it to feel so overwhelming that people give up, right. And so some people just need baby steps, just like you know, you’re not going to throw them into front squats and deadlifts on day one, right baby steps, right. And so one of the most powerful things you can do with people who are new to eating differently, and you want to make a big difference, just double their protein, because I guarantee they’re eating about half of what they need. And the reason that works so well is because – one protein is the most satiating thing you can eat. And so when you’re feeling full, you’re just going to eat less of other stuff, right? And so the calorie intake is just going to go down. And then too, it has all the micronutrients in there. So it has the iron and all the other vitamins and minerals that we need. And so they may have… likely weren’t getting enough B12, iron, you know, niacin, all these other things that is so high in animal source foods. And so when you’re reducing calories and increasing nutrient intake, plus getting all of those amino acids that you need for muscle synthesis, bingo. So even if you did nothing else to people’s diets and just told them to eat more protein, what a massive difference you can make in someone’s life.
Lucy Hendricks 14:36
Yeah, and that’s where we’re going to focus on. That’s what my business partner and I are thinking that can be the one thing we have our walking, the sleeping, and protein. What an easy… Well, not easy because there’s a lot of learning to it. But what a good first step and it’s not restrictive. So three months of this, we were doing all this research with our clients and some people do really well with just pretty well with just providing them information, they trust us, they’re able to implement new things. So we did have a lot of our clients up their protein, and we had one person who doubled her protein. And seeing her progress in the gym is just beautiful. Because every time we try to push limits with her, something would tweak. And that’s something I think people are not realizing, even trainers and other gym owners, when you’re trying to push the limits on strength training, you do have to stress the body. But if the body is not getting enough protein to recover from that stress, you will run into problems and it might not be in the gym. But what I’ve been seeing a lot is we push the limits. And then the next day, they’re reaching over to grab something in their car, like Oh, my shoulder, and then their shoulder flares up for a month. So we get that to go back to being deconditioned, we take a major step back, and we just keep seeing the same cycle over and over again. So I have to ask myself, Is it because they’re not eating enough protein, so they’re not able to recover from the stress that we’re putting in the gym? And with the few people that have doubled their protein, we’re now able to see a difference with the numbers every other week, the numbers are starting to go up. And they’re telling us I feel stronger, I feel better, I’m recovering better. So it’s really cool. And one other thing that I wanted to share was recovering from surgery. Two people this year… last year, one person had a knee replacement. And she really struggled with the recovery. It was really bad. And she did not recover as fast as most people. And I asked her about protein later on. And she kept saying yes, I’m getting enough. I’m getting enough. I’m following the app. One day, I asked her to show me the app, and she was getting 60 grams a day. And she said she also kind of stopped eating meat. And she didn’t really know why. But she just kind of did. And she’s getting approached in other ways I have to ask myself, was it… That’s one reason why you struggled so much with recovery. And same thing with our client with a shoulder surgery, he has a cycle of crash dieting, where he only eats one meal a day, because he’s trying to lose all this weight in a really short amount of time. And he was doing that right before his shoulder surgery, then he had to shoulder surgery and have horrible recovery, couldn’t sleep, it didn’t recover as fast as the surgeon told him it should. So again, I have to ask myself, was it because of the protein? You weren’t eating enough?
Diana Rodgers, RD 17:28
Yeah, I definitely, I can definitely see that. And the woman you said that’s eating 60 grams of protein. So when you look around the internet, that’s what… that’s actually more than what a lot of people think they need. But we should back up and just talk about and I did this on the podcast a little bit with Lily Nichols that just came out because we were talking about protein and amino acids and everything, you know, that number of 45 grams or 50 grams a day of protein that is based on an ideal body weight for women of 125 pounds. That’s not realistic. I think that that’s crazy. 125 pounds as the set point for the RDA for protein because the RDA for protein is not the optimal amount it is the minimum amount. And I think a lot of people think it’s the optimal amount. And when we look at the other micronutrients, the DRI for those that daily recommended intake is intended to cover the majority of humans, like average humans, right. But then when we get to this protein number, it’s the minimum amount. I don’t think people quite realize that and there’s really no evidence at all. I’ve looked in the research of really jacking up protein, it’s not going to cause kidney disease. Some people will say, Well, your body can only utilize 30 grams of protein per meal. They’re still micronutrients, it’s still super satiating like there are other aspects to eating protein that are beneficial beyond what is so-called utilizable. Right? And so I start all women in my practice at 100 grams protein, and for those who are really overweight and have trouble maintaining their appetite, and like you know really tend to overeat. Protein is so low, animal-source protein is so low in calories and so satiating that it really can help someone kind of get back in tune with their normal satiety cues and understanding when they’ve had enough to eat.
Lucy Hendricks 19:33
Yeah, yeah, we’re not a big fat loss gym, but many gyms are and that’s so huge. That’s huge for people working out.
Diana Rodgers, RD 19:43
And you know, some people will do protein powders I always recommend they just eat it because then you’re getting the full sort of satiety benefits as well as all the other benefits of the protein. So, you know, someone is recovering from cancer and they just really can’t get in enough calories or protein, then you know, doing a shake with some protein powder is probably a good idea. But for most people, I think just eating some chicken or some fish or some beef is really the best way to go.
Lucy Hendricks 20:14
Does that number change? The 100? If someone’s very active, if they’re strength training a couple times a week, and move a ton.
Diana Rodgers, RD 20:23
Yeah, I think that, I mean, it’s really individual tolerance too. So for example, I did a nutrient density Challenge Week, it was a protein-sparing modified fast, which is pretty much like a bodybuilders diet. Except for I was also trying to max out my micronutrients. My favorite app is Cronometer, I don’t know which app you use for your folks. But Cronometer is really great because it shows your micronutrients too. So you can kind of look and see if they’re getting their iron or their, you know, potassium is something that’s really hard to get through food, and a lot of us aren’t getting enough potassium. And for other people, just who might, you know, have food aversions to other things, they might not be getting the micronutrients that they need. But I joined this challenge, where I was trying to get 140 grams of protein, but not go over like 1800 calories, or 1600 calories or so. And so it was really, really tricky. And it took a lot of attention. It was like a full-time job for a month until I got really used to eating that way. But I have to say, I never felt better. So I think, for me, I have an autoimmune condition, probably don’t react to stress as well as an average person. And a few other things going for me, that’s probably not ideal. And so maybe I do need more protein than a 25-year-old college student that can pull an all-nighter and not feel the effects of it. Right. So I think everyone’s… and also their nutrient absorption is different too. As people get older, they’re less able to absorb, especially protein. So your protein needs actually go up, especially after 40. When we start building significant amounts of muscle. I mean, you can put on some muscle after 40. But it’s much harder.
Lucy Hendricks 22:14
That’s actually another thing I would love to talk to you about. So it’s keeping the muscle as we age. So Dave, my business partner, and I, our mindset really shifted last year watching my grandma and his dad and his mom get old, and they’re all almost dying. And watching my grandma lose 100% of her independence years ago, because of her body just becoming so weak. I’m looking at her thinking, how much protein are you eating? Yeah, we lost all of your muscle. And are people not seeing that connection? Because when we talk to our clients about it, some of our clients, they don’t care about lifting weights. So the fact that I’m telling them like protein is going to get you to progress. They’re like, I don’t want to work hard. And they might not want to lose weight. But I know they don’t want to end up like my grandma. So how do I communicate that? Or how do I make that connection? Because that’s something else I’m also thinking about because a lot of our clients are 50 enough.
Diana Rodgers, RD 23:17
Right? So so the big concern, you know, I was just watching a bunch of commercials too for I think it was like a lifeline or one of those, you know like I fallen and I can’t get up like little necklaces that people wear. But it was showing these almost falls, right? Like, it just kept walking you through all these situations where these women were about to fall, but they didn’t fall. But it was like, That’s a scary thing, right as falling and breaking a bone. And honestly, I can say having worked in hospitals, that’s how most people go, is they think everything’s fine. They fall, they break a hip, they end up in… you know, maybe getting hip replacement surgery, but then they go into a rehab facility, and then that slowly transitions to a nursing home, and they kind of never come back out again. And it was a sad reality that I was trying to explain to my mother before she died. We were talking about like kind of life planning for her. And she wouldn’t hear of it. Like she wouldn’t even have this conversation. And I think we need to be a lot more honest about you know, just like, when you hear vegans saying why can’t we just let that cow die naturally? Or, you know, why do we have to kill it? It’s also the way humans die is also like there’s a lot of suffering involved. And a lot of that comes from muscle loss. And so if we can prevent it what’s called sarcopenia, muscle loss. That’s the best you know because it’s not just about longevity. It’s about quality of life, right? And so in order to give people the best quality of life, we absolutely… we have to maintain their muscles. And I think that that’s not talked enough about, especially with, like you said, your decondition people that maybe they don’t… they don’t want to work hard, they don’t want to lift weights. You know, honestly, personally, I don’t really enjoy it either. But I know I need to do it because I have to maintain strength because I don’t want to fall. And most falls don’t happen because the bone just like breaks, it’s they fall because their muscles are unstable. They fall and then they break the bone. And that’s just how it happens. And so preventing age-related muscle loss should be the number one nutrition goal of all people. And so that’s a combination of lifting heavy things, even if you don’t want to, and then eating enough protein period. And so there’s some longevity book out there. I think it’s Walter Longo, talking about how you can you know, lengthen your telomeres or whatever by protein restriction. And Robb and I have talked about how that’s absolute BS because the goal is not longevity, the goal is quality, right. And so if we want high quality of life, we have to have great muscles.
Lucy Hendricks 26:19
Yeah, you have to get out of the chair, you have to be able to endure an active life. The other thing that I see too, aside from protein, because we’re thinking lift, eat protein, 10,000 steps, because that’s another one where people think their 3 to 4000 steps is okay. But now you’re losing the tolerance to have a physically active day. So if you’re just used to getting 3000 steps, you can’t go to New York and have a 25,000 step day because you don’t have the tolerance to it, you have to be able to keep that tolerance up as you go to old get older, or it’s just going to go down. And it’s going to get to the point where the only thing you can do is stay in your room and get from the chair to the bathroom to the bathroom to the kitchen. And that’s all you’ll be able to tolerate.
Diana Rodgers, RD 27:04
I see this currently in my dad, and nobody wants the end of their life to be just like, okay, how am I going to get through this day. But there’s so many people living that way today. And again, we’re just not talking about, you know, what end of life looks like we kind of hide it under the veil. We don’t have old people living with us anymore that we have to take care of. We just like ship them off to be cared for by other people. And so there’s just no conversation and only 30% of Americans have a will. I mean, like, it’s crazy. And so if we don’t get really realistic about what life looks like at the end, and how can we make that the best possible scenario. You know you want to be able to just cook for yourself as long as possible and be able to, you know, see grandchildren or great-grandchildren as long as possible. So as people are like, well, I don’t want to walk 10,000 steps, it’s not about being able to walk 10,000 steps, it’s about being able to maintain these very important social connections and your independence for as long as possible. Yeah, well, we just got off on a big tangent, I didn’t expect that.
Lucy Hendricks 28:19
That’s awesome. It’s something I’ve been thinking about over the last few weeks. It’s this, this needs to be the message. And we’re even thinking how can we have an onboarding process where this is the mind shift that we change in people, they come in here and they join a gym, but we bring this up somehow presented some way? Like, who cares about the 20 pounds that you want to lose? It’s how are you going to age because you can lose your independence at 60 and still live until you’re 90. But what kind of life is that? So we’ve been doing a lot of brainstorming and just thinking a lot about this.
Diana Rodgers, RD 28:55
Yeah, and I think people expect also that just going to the gym a couple times a week is all they need to do for weight loss too. And that’s not… like weight loss comes from your diet. Like working out. It makes you stronger and makes you feel great. But if your diet isn’t right, and it you know, there’s still room for modern indulgences here and there. But it takes a lot of attention to really, you know, be totally on point but just that first baby step of let’s just a pure protein, and most people will not. I mean, you’ll get some women that I’ve found any way that feel like it’s gluttonous, they have negative emotional reactions towards the idea of eating more meat. Most men in my practice, if I tell them to eat more steak, they’re like running out the door before the end of the consult. Like, in general, I think people are happy to have the permission to eat more protein. They just need to know it’s okay.
Lucy Hendricks 29:59
Yeah, I gave one of my vegetarian clients, your book a male, and I handed it to him. And this is after a year of training him. So I had to build the trust. Yeah, post something on him. And he goes, I already know what they’re gonna say. And I said, that’s exactly what someone will say about the other side when they haven’t actually gone to the other side. They say, I know what they’re gonna say, I know what they’re what their intent is. So he took it and started reading it, and then came back. And he’s like, I tried some steak. I tried a little piece of steak that my girlfriend was having. And I made some chicken. And he upped his protein eats fish, too. So he’s eating protein at every meal. But it was really cool to see. But I agree women tend to be a little more hesitant because of what we believe about protein.
Diana Rodgers, RD 30:52
Yeah, and just conditioning to social conditioning that women get salads and men eat steak. I mean, that’s just what most of us have been shown. Well, I’m so glad that I got the chance to have you on. You do distance consults. Tell folks where they can find you if they want to work with you.
Lucy Hendricks 31:13
Yeah, so I do two types of consults. I will do one-on-one consults. If anyone in chronic pain, who’s been clear to exercise needs a like startup program, before they go to a gym. I love doing that. And then I also do mindful movement, which is a movement meditation. So anyone looking to find a routine that they can do every day for about 15 minutes. I will work with someone to build a movement meditation routine for them. And that seems to get people feeling really good. They start feeling less pain, they feel more mindful. So those are the two ways and I guess, enhancinglifegym.com
Diana Rodgers, RD 31:54
Okay and then are you… does Enhancing Life have an Instagram presence too?
Lucy Hendricks 31:58
No. We’re anti-social media.
Diana Rodgers, RD 32:01
Oh, as a gym?
Lucy Hendricks 32:02
Yes.
Diana Rodgers, RD 32:03
That’s good. That’s nice to hear.
Lucy Hendricks 32:06
I have an Instagram personally. So Lucy_Hendricks.
Diana Rodgers, RD 32:10
Awesome. Well, thank you so much for your time and for reaching out to me and it’s been a long time since I’ve had a movement person on. So thank you so much for your time and keep pushing the protein. Good job.
Lucy Hendricks 32:25
Thank you.
(Closing) Diana Rodgers, RD 32:27
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