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Gareth Wyn Jones is a hill farmer in Wales and a passionate advocate for grazing livestock as a means for environment and human health.
Gareth’s family has been grateful stewards of the land for 375 years, growing produce and raising livestock. He has been using his media presence to provide honest information about farming in hopes of sending the message that livestock is not the primary source of our environmental woes.
He acknowledges the divide between urban and rural and the loss of our connection to the land. The divide creates the opportunity for people to be easily misguided and misled by the people in power.
Gareth’s message is for people to come together and “build a better world on our bellies.” Listen in and get inspired by Gareth’s message as we chat about:
- Why you shouldn’t blame farmers for the climate crisis
- The rural and urban divide
- Meatless Mondays and the absence of choice
- Eating seasonally, not globally
- The anti-meat message to children
- Problematic government policies
- The finances of farming
Rather watch this episode on YouTube? Check it out here: Episode 267: Gareth Wyn Jones
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Episode Credits:
Thank you to all who’ve made this show possible. Our hosts are Diana Rodgers and James Connolly. Our producer is Emily Soape. And, of course, we are grateful for our sponsors, Global Food Justice Alliance members, and listeners.
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Transcript:
Diana Rodgers, RD
Welcome to the Sustainable Dish Podcast. I’m Diana Rodgers, a real food registered dietitian, author, and sustainability advocate. I co-host this podcast with James Connolly, who was a producer on my film Sacred Cow. I also founded the Global Food Justice Alliance, an initiative advocating for the inclusion of animal-source foods like meat, dairy, and eggs for a more nutritious, sustainable, and equitable worldwide food system. You can check it out and join me at globalfoodjustice.org. Thanks again for listening. And now, onto our show.
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Diana Rodgers, RD
Welcome back to the Sustainable Dish podcast, everyone. Today I have with me Gareth Wyn Jones. I have been following you, Gareth for quite a long time, many, many years. You’re quite outspoken about the importance of grazing animals on the land. And from what I’ve seen, your farm is one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen, just with the ocean behind it. You know, maybe you could start off by just telling people a little bit about like, where you are in the world. What it looks like on your farm? I mean, we’ll include some links so people can see some of your videos as well. And then how long you’ve been there and all about your background.
Gareth Wyn Jones
Yeah, how long have you got? You’re gonna need more than 45 minutes. So yeah, my name is Gareth Wyn Jones. I’m a hill farmer here in a place called Llanfairfechan in north Wales. It’s on Eryri and the cattle nearby are part of Eryri, which is translated into English, they call it Snowdonia. But it’s not a real translation. Eryri is the you know the Welsh name because Welsh is my first language. English is my second language. And I use my Welsh language every single day with my family and my wife and things. So it’s a big part of our daily routine is our language, our lifestyle. My family’s been on this farm 375 years when records began in the parish. I believe in regenerative agriculture, sustainable food production, and, you know, sharing that story as well with other people. Because I do feel sometimes that agriculture, and especially livestock agriculture, is targeted by mainstream media. And some people who have the power tend to point the finger farmers and farming for the so called climate crisis. But I sit on my mountain and I, you know, have my sheep into their beautiful areas where we have some of the rarest flora and fauna, some of the rarest wildlife on the biggest open space of mountain in England and Wales, which is the governor of a 27,000 acres. But then I look above me and aeroplanes flying hundreds of ships out on the sea in front of me waiting to go into Liverpool and Hollyhead, and 1000s of cars traveling up and down the A55 and all over the country. So you know, it’s easy to point the finger at the farmers while you’ve got a belly full of food. And that’s what frustrates me, and I want to see a future for my children doing what I did. Following in my father’s footsteps. You know, I always wanted to go into agriculture. I love shooting, hunting, fishing, growing my own food. And as a farmer, I love nature. I love to see the first swallow, coming. And hearing the first cuckoo seeing the first leaves coming on the trees and seeing the first leaves fall. You know, we live every single day with nature with the seasons. And it’s not a job, it’s a way of life. So I want to share that with people. I want to engage with people. I want to open conversations. And I hopefully want to educate people that want to learn about my lifestyle and my beliefs. And, you know, farmers are there for a reason, you know, people would have always had connections with the land. Now 85 or 86% of people live in cities. They’ve lost that connection with the land. They’ve lost that connection with nature. And sometimes they can be misinformed and misled to think, you know, they don’t need the farmer that they can live on processed foods produce that nothing dies. But one of the messages I tried to put over every single day is that nothing comes from nothing. So every time we sit down for a meal, something will die, and that doesn’t matter if you’re flexitarian, vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, pescatarian – something will die for you to eat every day. And that’s a fact because I know because I don’t just, you know, produce livestock, I as well grow my own veg. And I know there’ll be more creatures dying for my veg, or my fruits for my salads to get on my plate than it will be for the meat. Sometimes people don’t like to hear that.
Diana Rodgers, RD
So I’ve been to Wales, and one thing I noticed was that it’s much more like small towns and much more countryside than some of the other places I’ve been where there’s like, either big, big cities, and then, you know, suburbs and then you know, rural life. It seems much more kind of like small towns integrated into the country. Do you think Wales? Is that a fair assessment? Or do you still think there’s like, in a lot of places I’ve been, there’s a huge divide between urban and rural, where urban people think rural people are too simple and, you know, not intelligent and all that. Do you see that happening in Wales, too? I’m curious.
Gareth Wyn Jones
Well, you have got cities, quite big cities in Wales as well, to be honest here, you’ve got Wrexham, in North Wales, you’ve got Bangor as well. But when you go south, you know, there’s a lot of cities that down there: Cardiff, Swansea, [Welsh town], you know, Carmarthen, all these are quite big areas, there’s more people down south, there’s only 3 million people in Wales. That’s the population. So it’s not a big country. But it’s a beautiful country, you know, we have a lot to offer. And for many, many years, the mean, you know, income was coal. Slate’s up north here, but agriculture as well. And agriculture has kept our Welsh language, with religion with the chapels and the way people, you know, we’re taught from a young age. So, you know, I feel proud of what we do. We’ve hemorrhaged a lot of people out of our industry over the last 20-30 years. And it’s frustrating. I think there is a divide. Yeah, and I think the further you go into your London, inner circle, the more the more yet, the more far removed, they are from food production, and farming, and everything that goes with it. So if we can bridge that gap, and I think this is important, you know, as an industry, farmers have been a little bit, you know, and I’m one of them for many years, that we stick our heads in the sand, and just carried on, this is our job, we’ve produced food, affordably, you know, in the best way we can. But that’s something that we have to really look at, we have to add value to the products that we’re producing, you know, because we’re business people. We have to be accountants. We have to be electricians. We have to be plumbers. We have to be vets, you know, because we can’t afford to bring people in to our farm every day, we have to be a jack of all trades. And it’s difficult. It’s very, very difficult. We have massive suicidal rates in the industry, we’re losing people, you know, with mental health, and there’s a lot of pressure coming from supermarkets coming from government policies. So I want to take a positive, you know, my hashtag on you know, my social media is living the dream, because I do believe I’m living the dream. So wake up every morning, to a beautiful wife next to me, I look outside my window, to the best office view in the world, I have a way of life that I love working with my father and my son every single day, you know, seven days a week, it’s a way of life. And not a lot of people have that opportunity -growing my own food. And you know, if we haven’t got something, I can go out and shoot it. You know, if we want a rabbit or squirrel burgers, even, you know, we can go out and grow it and my fridge my freezer full of our own produce, and it’s a great place to be. And you know, our health is our wealth. And what we feed ourselves in the long run is gonna give us longevity. And I think, again, mental health, physical health is to do with what we’re putting into our bodies. So for me, you know, that physicality and that mental strength comes from what I eat and what I do. And that’s why I want to push my story. And I think maybe that brings into a little bit of a context of why I’ve got over a million followers on my YouTube channel, why. And you know, that’s been done in about four months. And why my Facebook page is absolutely fine. I do less on Twitter. Now to be honest with you, Diana, because I don’t find it the same as what it was before this new X. I just don’t get it. So you know, I move away from places I don’t feel happy with or I don’t feel my message is being portrayed in the right way. We’ve moved on to TikTok as well. We’ve got over 100,000 followers on Twitter. I never thought I’d be saying this but you know, I’m a part of the Tiktok generation now at 56. But it’s important we are on these platforms. We are there, as, you know, part of the industry, teaching people what we’re doing, what we’re producing how it’s produced, because there’s millions of farmers across the world that are there, you know, looking for a new customer looking for the consumer, looking for a fair price looking for a future for their children on their farms. And if we don’t fight for it. We will lose it because there’s a lot of government policy, a lot of people that attend trying to take them rights away from us, and away from the consumer. They want to eating gloop from some factories and what you know, that’s my opinion. And I want people having the opportunity to have a choice of what they want to eat, you know, something that’s been produced in an ethical, sustainable, and, you know, good way.
Diana Rodgers, RD
What kind of, you know, I have two questions. One is, you know, what policies have you have you seen? I’ve heard of some things in Wales, especially with carbon offsets, and farmland being taken out of food production to have monocrop trees planted on it to offset a carbon emissions from airlines and things like that. But what what have you seen and also, have your kids encountered anything at their local schools?
Gareth Wyn Jones
My children are a little bit older, the youngest has just gone to university. Last week, so yeah, my oldest is 25. So no, they haven’t encountered that, really. But you know, I’ve just done an interview with a Welsh television channel. It’ll be on tonight. One Council, so one borough Council, Flintshire have decided to have a meat free Monday, once a month. And look, I don’t take away anybody’s personal choice. But I do get annoyed when these dictators come in, and take away people’s choice to eat what they want. Because you know, some of these children might be the only good meal that they get every single day could be school. So taking that away, I think what’s important as well is that they’re trying to plant a seed in these children’s eyes. These are the next generation, like meat free Monday is so good for the environment. Yeah, you know, that’s what they’re trying to sell while they fly in avocados in from Mexico. Green beans from Kenya. Yeah, come on. Let’s tap in globally, no, let’s start eating seasonally. If you want to teach a child a story, be honest. Be honest about it. Don’t be disingenuous. You know, cows and sheep and the problem, let’s bring it back to basics, we have got a temperate climate in this country. And that temperate climate was 70% of our land, be marginal is great to grow grass. So if you can’t tell that story to the next generation, there’s something wrong with it. And that’s what I want to do. You know, and if they want to talk, choose to be vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian, whatever, that’s their choice. But don’t force it. And don’t misguide them to think that this meat-free Monday is going to save the planet. And that’s what’s frustrating for me as a farmer, you know, is these things and these are coming. These ideas are coming from the top, not just, you know, infiltrated from mediocre people. This is coming from the top. You know, Oxford University’s done it, there’s a few other well, Cornwall Council tried to do it. And they got blown out the water now. Cornwall Council has turned everything around fantastically well. And they’re eating seasonal local food and everything’s from the area. Well, that’s what we should be. We should be bringing the food in from wherever we live. That’s what we used to do. Not ship it and cart it everywhere. And if we can teach that to the next generation, then we win. So that’s why I feel so strongly. And that’s why I’ve done this interview today is to tell people know, don’t be dictated. You have a freedom of choice to eat what you want. Don’t let people misguide you or mislead you to thinking you’re going to save the world by not eating meat.
Diana Rodgers, RD
Yeah, I find… so here in the US, we have meatless Mondays, and there’s a website and there’s quite a bit of propaganda that they have on this website. And it’s wrong, including livestock produces more greenhouse gases than the entire transportation sector. That is absolutely false. There’s another one that says that your hamburger patty is 10 bathtubs full of water.
Gareth Wyn Jones
But they don’t say it’s rainwater do they? That’s the thing.
Diana Rodgers, RD
Yes. Exactly.
Gareth Wyn Jones
We took Welsh Water up on it, and we weren’t… They had to take it down. Because it was exactly the same message they were spinning and that is wrong. That’s where they mislead people, you know? Yeah, it’s informative, but it’s misleading. It is misleading, because half of that or three quarters, and there’s only 2% of the water that produced that patty would have come from a tap. The rest came from God Himself up above us, and it came in rain. And they’re the things we need to challenge. So you know, I’ve got to congratulate you as well. You do some great work and love the book, you know, that you sent me many, many moons ago. So we are. We go back a long way. And I think we’re on the same path. And literally, I do believe people are beginning to listen, people are beginning to wake up and smell the coffee. And going forward. You know, we’ve got to be careful that we don’t sleepwalk into food shortages worldwide. Look at what’s happening in the Ukraine, look at what’s happening in a lot of places. And I can’t remember who the politician was, but he said, you control the food, and you control the people and do this. There’s a lot of truth in that. And, yeah, I think sometimes you can see this, how governments are talking about eating less meat, and you know, producing less growing more trees, you know, our country now isn’t the consultation that they want 10% of every farm going into tree planting to offset carbon? Well, I disagree with it. And it’s not that I’m against trees, because I planted 40 here last year, and they were all fruit trees. And then fruit trees will be feeding my children and my grandchildren. You know, these are the things that we need to start to get out there. And another thing that really gets my goat is, you know, they say that trees are going to be saving the Earth. Well, yeah, trees are here for a reason. But they are not going to be sequencing carbon after you’ve planted them for at least 10 years. And they don’t talk about how much carbon sequence already in the grasslands. They don’t talk about that. So again, it’s misleading. It’s misguiding. And people have been stuck, then, you know, they are like sheep, following these people, you know, into destruction and hunger, in my opinion, we need food security, we need energy security. And we can do this in all our own countries, because we’ve done it before, you know, with fair damnation, but we’ve got a growing world population, 8 billion, and you know, on its way up, and I think if we don’t be very, very careful, we could go hungry very, very quickly.
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Diana Rodgers, RD
Yeah. Will you talk a little bit more about that? Because I think you know, what we’re hearing. And I, of course, I have my own opinions on this, too. But I’d love I’d love for everyone to hear your thoughts. What we’re hearing is that there’s going to be more food sovereignty, and more better food security, if we just allow these large corporations to produce our proteins instead of farmers directly. I don’t see how that’s possible. I don’t know why. What your opinions are, why governments are backing these ideas. Why do you think governments are backing this meat-free ideas?
Gareth Wyn Jones
Well, because it’s going to take the power away from the people that have that power. And that’s what they want to control. You look at the oil industry, they lift them prices and drop them prices as they want. They have the power in their hands. You know, it’s a few people with immense… you imagine if they take the last thing that a lot of people have got, which is food away from the farmer and put it into factories. That’s it. That’s everything gone. And, you know, if you’re gonna ask me, What do I think of it? I think it’s, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. And if we don’t start to stand up, and start to have a farm or food revolution in this country, because we can see what happened in the Netherlands, you know, they were trying to take their farms away. They were trying to take the people away from that, you know, the land that they produce overnight. It levels, something similar in the states now, you know, it’s happening on a global problem. Same in New Zealand, we’ve seen some things across Europe again, now, catching up, again, more protests. But this all depends on the public. It all depends on the consumer. They have to say, no, they have to vote the right people. And that’s what they did in the Netherlands. You know, they made their own, you know, political party, and got into power. Because think things can change. You know, things can change overnight. We need to build, you know, a better world on our bellies, and it has to be done together. And I think if we don’t look at the land, and the farmers because these people have got skill sets. These are generational skill sets that no factory corporation is going to be able to do. They will just come in and they will rape and pillage that land We have been on this land for 375 years, and I will tell you, one of the ethos of our family is to leave the land in a better state than we’ve given it. We’re only custodians, we never own it, you know, we come with nothing, we go with nothing. But we can leave a stamp, we can leave something behind, for the next generation of food production is one of the most important things that we have in life, because everybody’s going to need to eat every single day. So everybody on God’s earth is going to need the farmer every single day. Unless corporations take over and start producing junk, processed food out of whatever they’re going to, you know, make money out and start making people even sicker than they are now. We should we’ve seen it with the sugar epidemic, overweight, you know, people with diabetes, you know, it’s happened in the States. It’s happening over here, we have to address it, we have to be honest with each other. And we are what we eat, like I’ve said earlier, and if we can start to teach the next generation, how to eat properly, how to cook properly, you know how to move away from processed rubbish, and, you know, your chicken nuggets and all that crap, sorry, and start to get, you know, eating proper food, you know, the future will be bright, mentally and physically, for a longer time.
Diana Rodgers, RD
What else are you seeing? I’m just back from a trip in Uruguay where I visited with ranchers and like Wales, Uruguay is best suited and it’s largely grasslands, marginal land, it is very well suited to cattle grazing. I met with a lot of ranchers there who are, you know, trying to heal the land through the grazing, they are making much less money per acre per hectare than they could be if they produce soybeans or rented it to somebody to do soybeans or just sold it to be to someone who wanted a country house. Right? What are you seeing with land use? And is there any push for farmers to be selling their land instead of farming it the way they’ve been doing it?
Gareth Wyn Jones
Yeah, there’s some big corporations or some big, you know, companies coming in and buying swathes of land. We’re losing lot land to solar farms as well. I think that that could be a problem because not that I’m against solar, I think solar is great, that we’ve got enough industrial, roof space and roof space commercially across the UK, we don’t need to use good land or even marginal answer the job…
Diana Rodgers, RD
And it’s not a terribly sunny place either. Right?
Gareth Wyn Jones
No, but there’s a lot of ask for it, you know, there’s this solar is, you know, coming into the realm and you don’t need that much sun. I’ve seen quite a few people as a farm down the road here, that’s just a big solar unit on his farm. And he’s producing energy and being paid for it. It was a big investment, but it’s going to pay back in about 15 years. He said, so you know, that’s good for me. But it has to be done in a way that’s sustainable. So when these big corporations come in and buy six or 7000 acres and start to talk about putting in big solar farms, no, let’s not do that, you know, is grayed out in deserts where nothing else is going to be live in, but not in land like this, we need this land. We need this land. And you know, as good as me how important ruminants are. So for me on this farm, if we didn’t have the cows, I couldn’t produce the food to feed my family. We have a poor soil fertility. But that black gold, that manure that I put back into the ground, and you know, over the last 10 years, I’ve been using the wool of the sheep as well. And this year, for the first time, I’ve been using seaweed as a mix within my wool and my manure. Oh, my God is one of the best things that I’ve ever used. So I want to wean myself off, you know, artificial fertilizer, I want to use more natural ways to produce my food and add value to that to sell to people. Because if we take that power back, take that power back to ourselves as farmers and connect directly to the consumer, the customer and start to sell then well it leaves out the big people, you know, the supermarkets that are making a fortune pushing prices down, then they start to ask questions. How do we adapt to this because they don’t get, you know, as long as the shares are coming in, and the profits are coming in for their hedge funds out in Barbados, while they drink their pina coladas they don’t care if a farmer is swinging at the end of the rope on the other side, because he couldn’t pay his bills. You know, that’s the reality of the situation. And we have to address it because a lot of consumers and customers won’t really understand the pressure that’s on the industry every single day. So you know, I’m trying to take this into, you know, our mainstream platforms as in Tiktok and in Facebook, and trying to share other people’s stories that don’t really have my platform. So when they come to me with a problem, I asked them to do a little video, let’s share it, let’s get it out there. You tell people how you’re feeling about it. And you know, they, they feel good, because they get an opportunity to share their story with other people. And then the consumer might ask a supermarket when they’re buying, you know, a pint of milk, which is cheaper than water, they may ask the question is the farmer getting a fair price for producing, and that’s what the bottom line is. We have to make a living, we have to pay our bills like everybody else. And we have to feed people. So it’s a balance, you know, to get that affordable, sustainable, environmentally friendly food, on shelves, or into people’s kitchens every single day. And it’s a fine line, it’s a very fine line.
Diana Rodgers, RD
Will you help me understand a little bit more about the finances of a farmer. And well, so in the US, there are ways that you can send your animal to be processed, but then collect it back and sell it directly, either through a membership program or just, you know, retail through your farm, which works well, especially in areas where, you know, the farms are integrated into, you know, places worth a lot of people. Are you able to do that in Wales? I know, there’s a lot of countries where the meat, all the meat just has to go straight into sort of the commodity market.
Gareth Wyn Jones
The problem for us is we have 10 million sheep in Wales, 3 million people. So in some instances…
Diana Rodgers, RD
It’s a little off balance there.
Gareth Wyn Jones
Yeah, so I tend to send some for myself and family and friends, don’t do it on a commercial basis, you know, we have 4000 ewes on our farm in the partnership. So it’s a lot of lambs to sell. So we sell some through the market, you know, which they call stores, which are lambs that are nearly ready, and then they go on to lower land where they finish them off. We sell some as well, because we’ve got some lowland land, we sell some directly to abattoirs as well, it all depends on the market price, and you know where we can, because you have to be an affordable business, you know, you can’t just live off, the so-called grants that they gave us. So we’re subsidized the majority of upland farms. I think is about 60, or 65% of the income comes from a subsidy, which, you know, for me, I’d much rather be getting a fair price for what I’m producing. So in the future, that’s what I want to look at. I want to look at adding value to that product, like bringing it into a you know, a regenerative world into a grass-fed will where you know, very little concentrates and very little artificial fertilizers are used, and selling it directly somehow to the consumer, to the customer. At this moment in time, you know, I don’t have a lot of time to do things like that now, because, yeah, with social media, television work I do as well. And we do immersive tours here. So yeah, we are at the mercy of tours here for nine years now. So people from all over the world come spend time. So tomorrow morning, I’ll have 28 Americans from Rick Steves here. And then on Monday, I’ll have 23 Americans from Rick Steves then boat travel. Two tours on Tuesday, and then two tours on Thursday. And then again, Saturday and Monday again. So yeah, yeah, the about an hour and a half out on my time. But you know, that’s an hour and a half that I’ve got to make up somewhere else. So, you know, it’s getting up early to make sure that everything’s done so I can put the time but the reality of it, I can make more money on one tour than I can profit-wise for the whole week on the farm. Now, there’s something wrong there. You know, I’ve been fortunate that I’ve been able to utilize what I’ve gotten, you know, I’m quite good at sharing stories and what we do, and you know, that I learned many, many years ago that I can add value to that. I can add value to myself, as you know, something for the farm, so that we can see a future for my three children. Yeah. And how I want to adapt that is, you know, maybe one of them to come on to the farm, and maybe another one to do the tours with me, and then maybe another one to run my social media sites. So it’s adapting that and making sure there’s a financial benefit for them as well. I can’t expect them to come here and work for nothing. They you know, they have to have a fair price and both my sons have been working away on really good money, so I can’t expect them to come home and work for peanuts. I can not do that. So yeah, it’s making sure that I’m giving them a fair price. Give In a fair wage, but you know, making sure that they’re understanding that there is a legacy here. There’s an opportunity for all of them, as long as they want to be part of that legacy, that history of 375 years without putting too much pressure on the moment.
Diana Rodgers, RD
Yeah. All right. Anything else you want to add, you can definitely drop the names of where people can find you on YouTube and TikTok, and we’ll include all of those links.
Gareth Wyn Jones
Yeah, so literally, it’s Gareth Wyn Jones. And you know, if you put that into anything, it’ll come up on YouTube, it’ll come up on TikTok, it’ll come up on Facebook. And, you know, I just want to thank people for being so supportive over the last 15 years, in my career, through the television work. I don’t do as much now for the BBC. I don’t, I’m not sure why. But, yeah, there’s things that I really enjoy, about sharing stories, but I’ve had new opportunities through new platforms. And I just want to thank everybody, and thank you, as well, for this opportunity. I want to share our story. I want to get people back eating healthy seasonally, you know, tasting that first new potato out of the ground, that first strawberry, the first tomato, you know, when you eat in the strawberries in December, and they taste them nothing, I had tomato soup, then it’s time, everything was off the farm. And it was banging. The cream came from a friend of mine down the road, who you know, delivers his milk here, twice, three times a week. Everything I’m trying to do is got a story behind that. And yeah, follow a farmer, find the farmer, make a little bit of, you know, background work yourself to find where your food comes from. And I think that’s important for us all. Because if we want to go forward in a positive way as mankind, we have to be kind, we have to be kind to each other, and stop this polarization from the vegans, to the vegetarians to you know, the meat eaters, we’re all on this earth, and we can all share it. But we have to be kind to each other. And we have to understand that everything as a farmer, we will be producing something will die, nothing will come on that plate without a cost or something. So that would be you know, my message to people is follow a farmer. You know, if it’s not me, follow another farmer and have an understanding that these people are going to be in your life every single day, as long as you want it. If you want us there we are here for you. Don’t give that opportunity to the big corporations. Don’t let us slide away. And the bureaucracy and government policies. Keep fighting the fight because we can do this together. So a farming Food Revolution is needed worldwide.
Diana Rodgers, RD
Wonderful. Well put thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it very much, Gareth Wynne Jones everyone give him a follow on TikTok, if that’s your platform, definitely check out his videos on YouTube where you can actually see because a lot of them are filmed right in the pasture with the sheep or cattle and it’s, it’s just fabulous to look at. So thank you again for your time.
Gareth Wyn Jones
[Thanks in Welsh]
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